KODAK Zi8 Pocket Video Camera / BlackI have a flip video camera. I love it. You can see the results of using it on the front page of the School of podcasting. The only thing I didn't like about the Flip camera is that you get the audio from the camera. For the record it's not bad audio, but it would be great if it had an external microphone jack. Enter the Kodak Z18 For $179 it sure looks like a great deal.